Like Pbt1 said, so many similarities with Eric and Jason…:)
Except, I hope that Jason/Chrystal are in no way a parallel to Eric/Sookie. In fact, I know they are not. :)
Eric and Jason are very similar, I agree, but sometimes these parallels are painted with too broad a brush to really be helpful, I think.
Sookie: “There was one other time I saw you under silver. You were in a church full of people who hated vampires. You said you’d give yourself up in exchange for Godric, and for me. Didn’t sink in at the time, but even then, you were willing to die for me.”
I gotta say — though I do think he was taking a risk in the FOTS church, I don’t think he had much expectation of dying, or that it was all for her. Godric told him to get her out without shedding any blood, and I think he did some fast math and decided that offering himself up was the best way. He knew Godric was there.
I mean, I’m glad Sookie is looking back and seeing that he has always cared about her, but I think there’s a bit of inflation here, in her memory.
I think Eric wants to see Eric kill Bill too
That would be great, but the best thing would be for Sookie to do it:)
I don’t know about that. It seems like it would be the most poetic justice, but if you think about it, it’s one more thing Sookie would have to kill, and given their history, it’s one more thing Sookie would have to kill that would weigh on her forever.
I’d rather Eric do it. We’ve had a few foreshadowings, and that would be giving Sookie justice without burdening her soul more.
I agree. I want it to be Eric. Also, I think it has to be Eric. Sookie’s journey shouldn’t have to include killing her first love.
That’s it. For all that he’s done to her, and for all that he might do still, this was once someone that meant something, and while it could be hugely symbolic and even catarthic, long-term, that’s one more scab on her soul, one more thing that might never heal. I’d rather he’s dispensed with at no cost to Sookie. He cost her enough.
Exactly. And, in the end, I think Eric will kill him out of mercy, not anger. That’s my prediction.
I don’t think mercy killing necessarily fits. If it were to be mercy for Bill he’d have to regain some of his former qualities and we don’t even really know what Bilith is or is capable of at this point. I don’t think there’s a lot of Bill left in there, and if there is I’m guessing it’s not his humahniteh. I can’t see him snapping out of his demi-god state long enough for Eric to mercy kill him.
The only way I can see Sookie killing Bilith is if it’s a clear Bill-or-Eric situation and she chooses to save Eric, therefore taking out Bilith.
Alan Ball said the big question about Bill is how much of him is left in his new manifestation, and he also said that to his mind, no one is irredeemable. Now, I know Alan Ball isn’t running the show, But I’m pretty sure he left behind a crew that understood and remains true to his vision of where the story is going. I’ve also read that Stephen Moyer (and maybe Alan Ball? I don’t remember exactly where I read it) played the scene where Bill drank Lilith’s blood as his dead certainty shifting to dismay as he undergoes the transformation, as if it’s only just at that moment that he realises what he’s done — when it’s too late.
Personally, I think Bill is on the path to redemption, and that the only redemption possible for him is death. I think Bill has always been a malignant force, trapped inside a human shell, and now he’s a human being trapped inside a malignant force. His insides have been turned out, and his oustide has been turned in. There’s no going back for him, and he’ll never be Sookie’s lover, but that doesn’t mean that the part of him that loved her, the part of him that has always been undermined by his malignancy, isn’t still somehow there in the heart of the monster he’s become. Bill has to die, yes, but I can see a situation in which both the Bill inside of Billith and Eric know that the only way to save him and save Sookie is for him to die.
Can Billith die? I don’t know. Will there be any last vestige of Bill in there? I don’t know, but it’s not dramatic for him to be a naked, screeching pterodactyl all season, so I’m betting that’s a question True Blood will actively be asking. Will he still want Sookie? I would bet a million dollars, and I’m broke.
I think Eric killing him as a mercy keeps Eric’s hands clean, but sets up a lot of potential drama, and you know how they love their drama at TBHQ.
I agree. As much as I would love to think that everything Bill was before drinking Lilith’s blood is dead, I don’t think it’s that simple. TB never had a villain who is pure evil. This would be an oversimplification that really doesn’t meet the standards of this show, where all the good have a dark side which often makes them fall and fail, and all the villains are people with a past, and a tragedy, and a belief, and motivations behind their actions. I’m sure that a part of the “true” Bill is still there, and that will make it 50 times harder for Eric and Sookie to take the decision of killing him. If that “thing” was only Lilith in-a-Bill-suit, and nothing else, then there would be no conflict, no tragedy in destroying it. Of course, this can be a double-edged sword. It can be interesting to see Bill occasionally resurfacing in Lilith, but there’s also the risk that all of this turns into a whole season of Bill going Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde and all the other characters playing minor roles around him.
I don’t fear that the whole season will be focused on a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde performance from Billith, because I think last season really sidelined Sookie to develop the characters of Bill and Eric, and that the next season needs to bring her more firmly into the drama. With Sookie now very firmly tied to Eric and his clan by their shared peril and also by love and friendship (Tara), I think we’ll see plenty of Eric and Sookie together. I do think, though, that the potential for Bill being complex and schizophrenic is way more interesting and compelling than Bill as pure, unmitigated evil.
I don’t think Billith will be easy to kill from any angle.
After almost having to force Sookie to let him into her house, Eric decides to take actions to be able to go where he likes, when he likes. And he’s really smug as he lets Sookie know she’s been out maneuvered.
Smug, yes… but kinda cute, in a way.
Poor Sookie, she was really like a deer caught in the headlights of a car the first time she met Eric. His very open interest and talk was very different from what she’d experienced with any man before and seeing him licking his lips while eye-fucking her must have been a bit intimidating as she couldn’t read his mind and find out what he really was after.
Eric and Sookie each believe in honoring their debts.
Eric and Sookie in S4E10
Time for some hotness;D Eric and Sookie in S2E10.
This whole scene=Favorite of mine :)
Its quite a contrast to when he speeds to her house after realising she is back home.The relief he must feel that she is alive and well has momentary dropped his defences, because there is an AE quality to him in what he says and in the openness of his facial expressions.He lets her know that he never gave up hope that she would return, that everyone gave up on her except for him.Eric is very earnest about this and sincere, he is revealing a lot and Sookie is surprised by this declaration, and all infront of Bill too.
Eric is sent packing by Bill before he can really talk to her and I think it unnerves him that Bill is still there after he is gone.That on top of catching her naked in her bedroom brings out his primitive side, his defences are back in place which also reveals some of the hurdles they have to overcome, with Sookie being part Human and Eric being a Vampire.
There was a great, great analysis of this scene, and of the 3 different approaches Eric takes to try and get through to Sookie, done by ohiogurl. I went and found it (it was written as a comment to my recap, and it was posted when the episode first aired, so it’s been a while. But it’s worth a repeat, because it’s brilliant):
I loved Eric and Sookie’s conversation at the beginning of episode 2. I actually saw things a bit differently—I thought the conversation foreshadowed two obstacles to their relationship: one on Sookie’s side, one on Eric’s.
Eric comes to Sookie while she is changing, catching her naked. While the view is intriguing, it also short-circuits his usual canny thought processes. His attempts to win her over are hilariously inept. First, he tells her that he bought her along with her house. I regard this as a retreat into knee-jerk reactions for him. He is pretty aroused (the growl, veiled compliment, and popping fangs all betray this), and he falls back into familiar patterns that require no higher thought processes—treat this like a business transaction.
Sookie shuts that down pretty quickly, so he tries another tactic—I can protect you from your enemies. This is a little less mercenary—less like treating her as a possession or a whore—and she softens slightly. But she still declares that she can take care of herself.
So he tries a third argument—I care about you. This tactic comes the closest to success. You can almost see her considering it—but then Sookie says that she can never be with him the way she was with Bill. I guess this means that the love and tenderness she felt for Bill she can’t ever foresee experiencing with Eric. He’s too armored, too invulnerable. This is a dealbreaker for her. She has to love him before she can be his.
I really love this idealism on Sookie’s part. Ignore the fact that her relationship with Bill was dysfunctional and based upon lies and manipulation. The FEELINGS were real. And she isn’t selling herself for money or safety. She won’t even consider it.
So this is the obstacle to their relationship on Sookie’s side—she has to care about Eric, not just need him. At this point, Eric has revealed tremendous vulnerability to Sookie. But it’s still a no-go. So Eric switches up his tactics. Eric claims to know her, and tells her that her Fae self, her better self, will know the value of what he’s offering and eventually yield. Her human self may be foolish and emotional, but she is “better than that.”
And here it is folks—Eric’s obstacle to their relationship! He still despises humans. He rationalizes his feelings for Sookie by telling himself that her Faery blood elevates her above the human herd. But what he’s ignoring is that Sookie IS human. Despite her Fae inheritance, she’s still mostly human. Her culture and outlook are entirely human. Sookie is more tolerant of supernatural creatures than most humans, but she isn’t some faery wearing a human mask, like Eric wants to believe.
What’s so wonderful about this conversation is that it sets up season 4 so beautifully. Sookie thinks she can’t come to care for Eric or share feelings with him the way she did Bill. Eric thinks that Sookie’s human side is irrelevant and unworthy of him. All this changes in season 4. Eric loses his memory and with it all his disgust and resentment for humanity. He also becomes vulnerable and open enough that Sookie can come to care for him.
I just love this. It’s thoughtful and very true.
That WAS a great analysis.
You know what really grosses me out? The way Bill voyeuristically watched them have their family drama. I hate that Bill watched Eric suffer this and sob brokenly, and then said “Praise Lilith” to no one.
I hate Bill.
I love the way this echos Godric saying that they had to evolve, or he feared for all — human and vampire. Too bad Bill is doing it wrong.